And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. It was his great coolness and daring (either that, or fear) that enabled Crowell to shoot the animal at a distance of one rod only (roughly 16 feet), first hitting it in the leg with his shotgun, then dispatching it with a bullet to the head from a borrowed rifle. McEnroe: It is an uphill challenge. These were normal everyday folks. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. In 2011, genetic testing confirmed that a mountain lion originated in South Dakota and traveled more than 1,500 miles before being struck by a car on the Merritt Parkway, according to Reuters. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. Mass.gov is a registered service mark of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Thanks very much. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. Please remove any contact information or personal data from your feedback. You need to understand that every biologist that works for the state has a duty to deny mountain lions. Let's go now to to Kyle in Keene I believe Kyle is this Kyle Jarvis from the Keene Sentinel a former reporter and former reporter. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. He told me that on one of his many scouting trips for Black Bear he found a deer carcass up in a tree. In April 1997, tracker John McCarter found scat near a beaver carcass at the Quabbin Reservation. Bats have no interest in your hair! And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. I have learned one thing in my career, and thats to never say never, she said. Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. In April 1997, experienced tracker John McCarter found scat near a beaver carcass at the Quabbin Reservation. I really really enjoyed listening to this program so thank you all very much. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. Attracting the black swallowtail butterfly to your yard is as easy as planting parsley and carrots in your garden. There is no evidence of a reproducing mountain lion population in Massachusetts, MassWildlife says on its website. And so we come to the great divide over cougars in New England. A .mass.gov website belongs to an official government organization in Massachusetts. Mountain lion or cat running across. State law protects all species unless otherwise noted. On a mountain lion that died on a Connecticut highway. Peter Biello: So Rick seems like you agree that the tail is a big giveaway whether or not it's a mountain lion Absolutely. Spatz and Sue dont want to go where were going.. We hadnt seen a cougar, nor any evidence to suggest a cougar had traveled these woods recently. It's you know I recognized their report and. Three females confirmed well ahead of predictioins, Re(1): Mountain lion confirmed in SW Quebec, Possible big cat sighting in Barrington, RI, Re(1): Possible big cat sighting in Barrington, RI, Re(2): Possible big cat sighting in Barrington, RI, Possible Belchertown mountain lion sighting, Re(1): Possible Belchertown mountain lion sighting. He also collects sighting reports on his blog, simply dubbed, "New Hampshire Mountain Lion." The blog still gets sightings, most recently on Aug. 3. Most of the reports I would not consider; a few from experienced hunters and outdoor people were hard to discount, although none of them had photographic proof or any footprints or scratch markings except for one naturalist that I have known for years. There's just one subspecies of North American mountain lion. Phone number 1 800. Big cats used to be kept as pets in the U.K . As a carnivore biologist, Hawley says he would love it if mountain lions were here. John thanks. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. John you're on the air. Yes. You wouldnt shake hands with a man like that, she said, and though she was smiling I could tell she was serious. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board, Re(1): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(2): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(3): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(4): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, Re(5): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct, didnt win the pwrball. They're very loyal to what the handler which makes them very dangerous to everyone else. Betty, for instance, has presented on Eastern cougars more than 300 times, gathering many hundreds of sighting reports in the process. So there's even debate about that very subject. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. If these animals are not in the habitat, what we see is an overabundance of herbivores., The ecologist John Laundre, who has spent 35 years studying cougars, concurs. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal likely trekked more than 1,500 miles from South Dakota, a journey that was captured by trail camera (above). Oh well, not much I can do about that., William B., of Pittsfield wrote, I learned something from your column about invasive species. It was a favorite of Euell Gibbons and I thought it was natures remedy for coughs and colds. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. Yet I also remembered something Sue Morse had told me months before, as we sat in her living room drinking beer and chatting cats. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. It's completely possible that it may have spent time in New Hampshire and went undetected but had it stayed in the area ultimately it would have been detected over time. (You can download the article frommass.gov/doc/mountain-lions-in-massachusetts-distinguishing-fiction-from-the-facts/download.) It was really muscular looking cat I mean is that like a side angle to me. Someone photographed the animal at the Brunswick School on Greenwich, Connecticut about 40 miles away on June 5th. There are always rumors about what state fish and wildlife agencies in the eastern United States know about mountain lions. McCarter sent a sample to Dr. George Amato of the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York and Dr. Melanie Culver of the University of Maryland. Really appreciate it. It was not a bobcat. I just want to tell you a story that I read. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Fish and Wildlife Service unofficially declared the Eastern cougar extinct. But that was OK. Bo Ottmannknew they were out there. So hard to know hard to refute if there's no interest in making up a story which many people of course do then I would respond the same way as Pat did. We're not in the woods. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. And were one of the most densely populated states as far as humans. Fear is actually one of the most powerful ecological forces we know, and its a really important management tool., According to Laundre, the problems caused by a relatively fear-free ecosystem are not always obvious, in part because they can take decades to fully manifest. If it's just in the middle of a greenfield you can't prove anything. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. Patrick Tate: So I agree with what Sam said in part that their ability to go undetected for amount of time but ultimately it was detected. We know that the closest established breeding population is in either the Everglades of Florida theres a small population down there and then out in South Dakota and Nebraska. Give today. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. Re(1): ANOTHER female disperser in addition to the one BELOW! Okay. Earlier in the year, Id attended one of these presentations, and even in the tiny village of Woodbury, Vermont, on a stiflingly hot summer evening, nearly 100 people showed up to hear her speak and see her photographs (Morse is a magnificent wildlife photographer). And a lot of people around the county airport have seen a lot of pilots coming in said they saw huge. New Hampshire Public Radio | Information online ad an age student loans dawg. It used to be that a bear would go into a house when someone wasnt home. Hawley: I feel strongly that we need a harvest here in Connecticut. It is a gravel road and when the plows clear the road in the winter (or grade it in summer) they spread the invasive all along the edge. There'd be there'd be all sorts of you know basically a lot of hassle required if that were to happen. hen I accepted the assignment to write about my quest to uncover the truth regarding the existence of cougars in New England, I had little idea what I was agreeing to. Bearded, bowler hat, expression impenetrable behind facial hair and the stoicism of an earlier era. About two years ago I was at the Laconia airport on the way home from the airport and there's a big lake on one side called Lily Pond. On the idea of bear hunting in Connecticut. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. I have no choice but to take this seriously, he told me. Please limit your input to 500 characters. And the cougar embodies that. I wonder if it grows around here at all? N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof. In 1994, scat collected after a sighting in Craftsbury, Vermont, was found to contain cougar hair (the animals are prone to ingesting their hair while grooming), and the commissioner of the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department circulated a memo with the following line: Harrigans interest in cougars was sparked in the late 70s, after he took ownership of, Perhaps, then, the ultimate question isnt whether cougars are among us, but rather how we can encourage them to settle here, After 20 minutes or so, we turned and stumbled our way back to the parking lot. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. Of course. The Connecticut mountain lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. Coyotes have been mistaken for mountain lions. Listeners give us a call if you'd like. A 140-pound male mountain lion was hit by a car and killed in 2011 in Milford, Connecticut. I don't know if she still is. A: It is less common than many other invasives but is found here in the Berkshires. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. Ottmann and I walked farther. Human/Wildlife Interactions in California: Mountain Lion Depredation, Public Safety, and Animal Welfare Overview and Background More than half of California is mountain lion habitat. There were pine cones on window sills, a well-used hatchet and a variety of animal figurines on display, and, near the television, a stack of videos including Life of a Predator and The African Lion. I do this shit.. The deadline for fuel assistance applications is Sunday, but most state emergency funds are still unspent. Peter Biello: Today on the program Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist and far better project leader Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in which is about the natural world and how we use it. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. Q: I recently read the book "The Scarlet Pimpernel" by Sir Percy Blakeney and was telling a friend about it, and she reminded me that it is also is a wildflower. But no proof was offered. And so a mountain lion is actually quite large right. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. Two independent labs confirmed the scat found at the site came from a mountain lion. And so when they come to him with a sighting, hes prepared to believe. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Rick your thoughts. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. It was not in any hurry. He coined the term landscape of fear to describe the relationship between predator and prey in the wild. There was the vaguest of trails, crisscrossed by deadfalls and a sharp-thorned bush that soon drew blood from Ottmanns right hand. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. But people in the region are posting like crazy online to the New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. The deadline for fuel assistance applications is Sunday, but most state emergency funds are still unspent. Tim Yeah. You know perhaps poke around where you saw it and see if you can find a track. They're just moving around freely. Besides, Ottmann had revealed that hed been charged by a bear in this same piece of woods, and I felt conflicted about diverting my gaze from the underbrush. If these people say they saw something, Im going to listen., If theres one thing people on all sides of the debate can agree on, its that a breeding population of cougars is essential to the overall health of New Englands ecosystems, which currently lack an apex predator. Case 1 There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. ml central ma. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. She served as the Senior Producer for 'The Colin McEnroe Show' for several years before stepping down in 2021 and returning to her previous career as a registered nurse. There are an estimated 3,000 - 7,000 Mountain lions in Colorado. Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. He can be reached by phone at 860-275-7297 or by email: pskahill@ctpublic.org. Which goes back to the Connecticut Connecticut cat and what not. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. Have it reported down in the Keene area. I saw it growing in Richmond along the road to Richmond Pond some years ago, pointed out by the late David St. James. All the latest news and updates of New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board's Message Board. The next week, on June 11, the cat was hit and killed by an SUV on the Wilbur Cross Parkway in Milford. So theres fresh mud. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. bobcat in new england article-By katchaya May 23, 2017 at 06:22:02 AM. For who but we humans can look across the landscape and not acknowledge our role in the diminishment of cougars and the myriad ways in which we have knocked the landscape out of balance? 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Post a New Message | Search | New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board . Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. Which which I think Pat and I have both experienced. Give today. So all the other states in the Northeast that have bear populations have a harvest on their bears. That's next time on one day. Shop. Peter Biello: Ok. Let us know your story and share your photos. In 2011, the U.S. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. Learn more about the two confirmed reports of mountain lions in Massachusetts atmass.gov/dfw/mt-lions. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. An adult male bobcat can reach four feet in length and 35 to 40 pounds. OK. That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. Morse founded Keeping Track in the belief that getting citizens interested and engaged in wildlife will have the knock-on effect of getting them interested and engaged in how land-use decisions affect wild populationsand might provide the impetus for conservation efforts. Peter Biello: Sam I wanted to ask you a little bit about that first and then turn to Patrick Tate efficient game. The unheralded hero of Apollo John Hubble the man who knew the way to the moon. Caller: I do. So. They set the stage for the exotics to move in, and this has a huge impact on our ecology, he said. And just one more note about this danger question when even when you look at the states that have extended populations stable populations of mountain lions attacks are relatively rare. Peter Biello: Thank you for sharing that. ghost, Re(3): didnt win the pwrball. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. Caller: I have yeah. So let's let's go to the phones. They just end up in these places. Just. Mistaken reports of mountain lions in Massachusetts are most commonly Bobcats. Patrick Tate: No downward pressure at all I think actually Sean turned up and we found the evidence there a number of people would finally say finally we can put this debate to bed. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. I think that you probably are. So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. So the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station has a database on mountain lion and they can identify. Ive seen more field evidence in a couple of hours tracking out west than Ive seen in 100 years on the East Coast, he said. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. MassWildlifecannot investigate or confirm mountain lion reports without any evidence. An official website of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, This page, Are there mountain lions in Massachusetts?, is. What kind of animal is that. And last year, Ben Tanner, a Lady's Island resident, captured video footage of what appears to be a large cat stalking a deer. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. Thank you. Love hearing these stories. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. It was a flooded area. DEPARTMENTAL BULLETIN 1 of 13 Number: 2013-02 Date Issued: March 1, 2013 . who is alex danson husband,
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